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Published - Tuesday, June 17, 2008

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Sand dollars: Lake district says county gypped it out of money from sand sales

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Something of a sandstorm is brewing in the Lake Neshonoc Protection and Rehabilitation District as it says the county hasn’t shared in the sale of sand from the lake.

At its May 21 meeting, the district passed a resolution requesting La Crosse County reimburse it for at least half the money the county received for selling sand that was taken from the lake during a dredging project eight years ago. The district also wants half of any sand sales in the future.

“We just feel we paid probably 60 percent of the project, and we just think, in partnership, we should share in the revenue of selling the sand,” said district board chair Jim Leicht.

In 2000-01, the district and county entered into a partnership to dredge Lake Neshonoc and remove sediment from the lake bed. The project removed 1.1 million cubic yards of sediment, most of which was sand.

The project cost $2.23 million, of which $1 million was paid by the county and another $1 million was funded by the lake district. The remaining cost was paid by a state grant the district received.

In addition, Leicht said the district paid almost another $206,000 for the project’s preparation, including engineer studies.

The sand has been stored on what is known as the County Farm, owned by the county and located south of Lake Neshonoc. Since 2003, the county has sold sand, although the lake district has not received any of the proceeds.

“(Lake district residents) put in a million dollars to clean up the lake and now (the county) is reaping the rewards,” Leicht said. “Our taxpayers not only paid a million dollars in their share but they also paid the million dollars (though county taxes) for the county’s share. So our taxpayers got hit double.”

County Administrator Steve O’Malley said he was surprised to hear of the lake district’s discontent of how the sand has been managed.

“It’s just interesting that now it’s an issue when it’s never been an issue before, and quite frankly we don’t know why,” O’Malley said. “We’ve been doing this for a while. ... I’m at a loss why this is a problem now.”

Leicht said the district did know the county was selling the sand and, on occasion, he would ask how much the county was receiving. However, he said he never got a straight answer.

“They always said, “Oh, it’s not that much,’” Leicht said. “I don’t care if it’s $5 — our taxpayers should get some type of cut from this.”

According to O’Malley, the county has received $29,080 from sand sales and expects to generate another $7,500 this year. The largest sale was $26,800 in 2003 when the county sold sand for fill at the Onalaska Wal-Mart site; there were no sand sales in 2004 or 2007.

O’Malley said sand sales are approved by the the county’s Public Works & Infrastructure Committee.

“These are not just done by staff,” O’Malley said.

James Speropulos, director of the La Crosse County Facilities Department, also said he did not know the lake district had a problem with the county selling the sand.

Speropulos said the county attended a meeting with the lake district in April 2001 to discuss possible benefits of using dredged material and there was discussion on selling the sand. Speropulos said the county later discussed selling the sand and it was approved.

“It’s never really been an issue,” Speropulos said. “That was a question we took through committee and the board and got it authorized.”

Leicht said selling the sand was discussed, but the lake district never agreed to it.

“The next thing I knew they were hauling sand out of there like crazy,” Leicht said.

Speropulos, though, said he feels the county is more entitled to the sand than the lake district. He said the county is in a unique situation with Lake Neshonoc because it actually owns the lake bed.

“From my view, it’s county sand dredged with county money stored on county property,” he said.

Leicht said the lake district has requested to be on the county board’s agenda in July. However, O’Malley said he and other county staff would like to meet with lake district representatives before then.

“We would like to meet with them and find out what’s going on,” said O’Malley, who also said he didn’t find out about the lake district’s concern until after its last meeting.

“We’re just disappointed on how we learned about a potential issue. We just want to work with the folks in the lake district and address whatever concerns they have. We’ve been partners with them and want to continue to be in partnership.”
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whats sad is wrote on Jun 18, 2008 2:17 PM:

" What is sad is that so many out there are willing to blame one entity or another here. The County, the lake District and the State put together a GREAT project. All the people I know have benefitted from this dredge project. Personalities will clash and these little squabbles will come up, but is no one out there willing to give credit to all three for a good project? If they sell this sand, there is more room for good projects in the future. Probably the most important point being lost in this little squabble. This little blip in the radar will get figured out. Go back to your tv dinners and nascar races. Good job county and lake district. My thanks, the lake is much better because of what you have done. "

Lake User wrote on Jun 18, 2008 8:44 AM:

" Why couldn't the money the county has made from the sale of sand be put into a fund for the lake. Should be a team effort here. Sand came from the lake, county sold it, use the money for lake projects. The lake district does it with their fund raisers. "

Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:36 PM:

" The value of the sand comes from its accessibility (the dredging). The lake district paid $1,206,000 the state paid $230,000 and the county's cost was $1,000,000 plus whatever the cost to store. Unless the county claimed ownership of the sand before the dredging began, the fair solution would be to divide the income along the project contributions. "

its really sad wrote on Jun 17, 2008 5:43 PM:

" Its really sad that the county wont give the money to the lake district, who will only invest it back into the lake. The county could care less about lake neshonc and if it wasnt for the lake district it would be a dead lake by now. "

Why now wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Why did it take 8 years for the Lake District to bring it up? If this was so important it oculd have been brought up years ago. All this fuss over what, $40,000? The county provided a service and taxpayers agreed. "

County Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2008 10:36 AM:

" If the Lake District wants to push this - they should have to negotiate a lease (or sale) with the County for half of the land that "their" dredge sands are stored on, and then they can spend their time negotiating with those who are interested in buying their sand, and then spend more time and money making sure that they have the necessary permits and working with those who are removing sand to make sure that it is done correctly. Then they can see how much "profit" they are taking out of this operation. I hope that they sell enough to clear enough room and make enough money for the next dredge project, because I don't think the County is going to be to interested in being "partners" with this group again. "

RE County Resident wrote on Jun 17, 2008 9:39 AM:

" How about the Lake District just giving the County 1/2 the money for rent!!!!! "

County Resident wrote on Jun 16, 2008 2:02 PM:

" If the Lake District is going to claim ownership of those dredge sands, they better be ready to either purchase or rent some land to store them on. "

Froto wrote on Jun 16, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Well O'Malley is pretty funny. He is touted as a very intelligent, person with the capabilities needed by the county. Yet, he cannot understand the problem. Very Good O'Mally, smooth move. Just keep dodging and weaving and you know if you stretch it out long enough this issue will also go away. If political history in the US these past 20 years has taught us anything it is that the winners always rely on the in-ability for the majority of the citizens to stay with any issue longer than the 60 second sound bites and that the majority are easiely taken off track with the next crisis. "

Near South Sider wrote on Jun 14, 2008 10:22 AM:

" The county should pay half to West Salem as soon as West Salem pays for half the cost of storing this sand all these years. As it was said, "...its county sand dredged with county money stored on county property" Can anyone else hear the West Salem whine here? "

West Salem Resident wrote on Jun 13, 2008 11:14 AM:

" What's to find out?? It's common sense that the sand came from a project 1/2 funded by West Salem, so therefore West Salem taxpayers should get at least half the profits from it. Come on O'Malley... how can this be hard to understand? "


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