Near the Bottom is Right wrote on Jun 16, 2008 10:21 AM:
" This is no time to be good neighbors - the Village of West Salem needs to take everything that we can. The County says it wants to be partners, but what have they done for us lately. Annex that land to keep the County out of our business and then build more tax base. "
near the bottom wrote on Jun 15, 2008 2:51 PM:
" the only ones to protect the West Salem school district from the City of Onalaska and the County will be the Village of West Salem and the Town of Hamilton, they will need to look ahead to what could happen, no time to be too lazy or too trusting "
Bottom Line wrote on Jun 15, 2008 5:05 AM:
" Both West Salem and Onalaska are growing and they are reaching towards the Town of Hamilton.
Bottom line? If a large part of the town is currently within the West Salem School District, future village boundaries should mirror those school district boundaries. Protection of school district boundaries should be paramount here, not an agrarian way of life that is disappearing in that area of the county. Reality is reality. "
more governments wrote on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 AM:
" Hamilton census is 2301 people , about 700 households, 500 returned surveys would be next to impossible for the Town alone,who reveiwed the surveys? who has them now?, search reveals no moratorium signed by the Town or Village,sorry, can not find your data "
Eve Zellmer wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:41 PM:
" the survey was for the town of hamilton comprehensive plan. It was the town residents that wanted to keep the hwy 16 land as agriculture. If you search the coulee news for this article: Boundary agreement may get tweaked for development. You will see that there was an agreement not to develop all of the hwy 16 land, some of the land was excluded from this agreement. You have county representation, give them a call if you see a problem. "
governments wrote on Jun 12, 2008 7:28 AM:
" mayors change, boards change, ideas change, legal signed documents DO NOT, if not necessary DO NOT sign them, you can sit at the table and talk without a signed agreement, a survey done by the County with 500 people should be carefully reveiwed, the number of people responding is too small and the summary should be given to all communities, but most importantly done by an unbiased group, NOT the County,I could find no moratorium, do you have a website that would appear?? "
eve zellmer wrote on Jun 11, 2008 6:43 PM:
" From conversations I was present for with the previous mayor of Onalaska they intended to keep the school districts as they are, unless residents asked for redistricting. Currently the town of Hamilton has 4 public school districts. I think the important piece is that at any moment the land could be annexed and developed. Why not sit at the table and fight for what our residents said they wanted to see for that hwy 16 corridor. Handing over the surveys of over 500 people, showing the group what the people who live and work in the community want is worth sitting at a table and talking. If I remember correctly the municipalities already signed a moratorium on building in that corridor for the next 18 months, so why not keep working on a future everyone can live with. "
a little more truth wrote on Jun 11, 2008 4:15 PM:
" as far as I know the State of Wisconsin sets the school district boundarys under the direction of the County recommendations "
Truth wrote on Jun 11, 2008 10:48 AM:
" Clarification: Most of the T. of Hamilton is within the boundaries of the West Salem School District already. Overall, that part of the town should become a part of the village. Some of the town, however, is within the boundaries of the Onalaska School District -- and overall, that area should become part of the City of Onalaska. And even if village/city boundaries in the future don't exactly jive with school distric boundaries, school district boundaries don't change unless the property owners want them to change. If I am correct, the city covers perhaps three school districts already. "
more to truth wrote on Jun 11, 2008 7:04 AM:
" Hamilton being absorbed by the City of Onalaska, and buying their water and sewer services from the City, sending their children to that school district and paying the City taxes, will be a hard pill for the Town residents to swallow if that is there future as you say "
Truth wrote on Jun 11, 2008 1:03 AM:
" I think there is some truth to what word-reply said: Protection of school district boundaries is important. West Salem's eventual village limits should pretty much parallel current school district boundaries. That is something that should be discussed. As far as Hamilton existing much longer (or the T. of Onalaska for that matter): Get real people! A good part of Hamilton will soon be part of West Salem and others part of the City of Onalaska. Stop living in a past that is fast fading away. "
word-reply wrote on Jun 10, 2008 12:18 PM:
" County knew 10 years ago what they wanted as the comprehensive plan for the Lacrosse area,Town of Hamilton residents also knew years ago what they wanted which was 1.preservation of farming and 2.alignment with West Salem(especially school system),so do things as County requests you "succeed", if not they shoot you down like Town of Onalaska,the County definition of cooperation is do what I tell you and follow our County plan "
To poster wrote on Jun 10, 2008 11:22 AM:
" Bad deal?? ANY deal that the Town can get that gives them ANY say is a good one. They can easily be forceably annexed and any development plans they have can be stopped because they, effectively, have NO POWER over that land. Pay attention. "
To Word on the Street wrote on Jun 10, 2008 9:13 AM:
" So, are you saying that the City and County knew what the residents in this area wanted 9 months before the Town did? I guess I fail to see your point. The bottom line is that these discussions were being driven by the collective will of the actual landowners in that area - to me, that is a good thing. "
Talk but no agreement wrote on Jun 10, 2008 6:57 AM:
" I see nothing wrong with talking (as the last poster aluded to). An agreement right now though might be seen as too restrictive by certain or all municipalities involved. "
to the Town-Poster wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:13 PM:
" the Town still owns the land, thats 9/10 of the law in America but not Cuba or other communist countries,the Town turned its back on a bad deal because the Town will lose all rights and power with the City and County, you do not need a piece of paper to talk ,you do not need a piece of paper to cooperate,you do not need a piece of paper to sit at a table and discuss options "
Eve Zellmer wrote on Jun 9, 2008 7:11 PM:
" The town should stay at the table and discuss options. The town has no power in stopping the village or the city of onalaska from annexing that property out of the township and doing as those municipalities choose. Hamilton already lost the area around vets park by the church to the village. If the land owners and residents want to see the land stay agricultural then they should tell the board to sit down at the table and discuss future options. Sitting at the table is better than standing on the side lines. "
word on the street wrote on Jun 9, 2008 6:55 PM:
" City and County have been badgering the Town and Village for 18 months, the Town public meeting was 9 months ago "
To poster wrote on Jun 9, 2008 4:32 PM:
" No one asked them to "let loose" of the land. The deal is a cooperative development agreement. The Town has, in effect, no power over the development of that land because Onalaska can veto anything that isn't in line with it's comprehensive plan. "
To The town asked ... wrote on Jun 9, 2008 4:27 PM:
" Think about it ... The City of Onalaska could do all those things. They didn't have to talk to the Town AT ALL. However, under a spirit of cooperation and trying to do what was best for everyone, they did talk to the Town. The Town, in effect, turned their back. The Town has no power here, but they were offered a fair deal and they walked away. It would serve them right if they end up getting development deals rejected. "
To Word on the Street wrote on Jun 9, 2008 3:49 PM:
" Actually, it was only after the Town held a public meeting with the landowners in that area, that the Town (at the urging of those landowners) suggested that this area should be preserved in agriculture for a while. You can't always trust "the street", so you may want to consider actually knowing what you are talking about before making accusations "
the Town asked for nothing wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:47 PM:
" City of Onalaska has "veto power", in addition words like "blocked" and "forced" , all this adds up to "bully",would you sign an agreement under such intimidation?? "
more info for you too wrote on Jun 9, 2008 2:44 PM:
" you could not have said it better the City of Onalaska does not have to cooperate with the County on their side and their Comprehensive Plan in place,the Village of West Salem Comprehensive Plan wants to go to Highway 16 on the far west, will the City and County cooperate??,the Village and Town are smart and long-sighted in not letting loose of this land. "
More info for you ... wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:50 AM:
" Here is a link of interest:
http://www.cityofonalaska.com/departments/Maps/ProposedLandUseMap.pdf
Please note the Onalaska Planning Boundary. It practically goes right to the Village of West Salem. Onalaska doe not have to cooperate to effectively control this land. Yet, they were willing to do so. To reject that cooperation is foolish and short-sighted. "
The Town has asked for it ... wrote on Jun 9, 2008 11:40 AM:
" Mush of that land in the town falls under Onalaska's extra-territorial jurisdiction. That means they won't be allowed to develop it any way they want ... Onalaska has veto power over anything that violates their long-range plan. So ... they can cooperate or they can be blocked or forced to make changes and maybe lose development after spending time and money. It is an easy choice, but, of course, they made the wrong one. "
In Reality wrote on Jun 9, 2008 9:01 AM:
" This effort was not at all about the County and City telling anyone what to do. It was about these municipalities sitting down together to identify common goals and determining ways to work together to achieve them. "
word on the street wrote on Jun 9, 2008 6:21 AM:
" the City of Onalaska and the County proposed a land moratorium agreement that they have been pushing on the Village of West Salem and the Hamilton Township for over one year,the obvious is to delay use until 2025 and it will then all becomes City of Onalaska backed by their comrade the County,the Village and the Township do not believe the City and County because of past dealings and broken promises, the County will use this agreement as their final comprehensive plan in 2010,you can not enter into an agreement with someone you do not trust "
real meanings wrote on Jun 7, 2008 6:32 AM:
" individual municipalities have been governing themselves for centuries without difficulty, this is NOT "future trouble",the Village and Town can do better without the COUNTY and City telling them what to do "
what this really means wrote on Jun 6, 2008 3:43 PM:
" By completely pulling out of any boundary agreement possibility, the door is left open for future trouble. Instead of the three municipalities deciding their futures, they have left the governing to the developers who are attempting to manipulate them. "
fortosfriend wrote on Jun 6, 2008 1:18 PM:
" "what do the peons and sheep know", exactly, exactly why we elected officials to govern,they study the situation, putting in a huge amount of their time, and make a educated decision, they decide with legal assistance what is best, congratulations to the people that serve us "
Froto wrote on Jun 6, 2008 9:18 AM:
" That what happens when you let the attorneys in. Delay tactics. Now lets see where the money, the power, the friendships, fall in all of this. Who are the opponents? Who are the bed-partners? Who holds what over whos head? Have any of the smoke filled back rooms been holding educational seminars from the Chicago mob style politicians? Or could it be, OH NO, not govornment business as usual, surely it cannot be that simple. Ah but alas, what do the peons and the sheep know? Theirs is but to roll over and thank those great politicians every day of their lives. "